Ils se sont parlé hier soir au téléphone.Hello,
I am having trouble understanding why "Ils se sont parlé hier soir au téléphone." is the correct orthography.
Bescherelle explains that there are three cases (https://www.bescherelle.com/faq/comment-accorder-le-participe-passe-dun-verbe-pronominal/):
1. Lorsque le verbe est essentiellement pronominal (c’est-à-dire qu’il se construit toujours avec un pronom réfléchi), le participe passé s’accorde avec le sujet.
2. Lorsque le verbe est occasionnellement pronominal, le participe passé s’accorde avec le COD si celui-ci est placé avant le verbe.
3. Il ne s’accorde pas s’il n’y a pas de COD ou si celui-ci est placé après le verbe.
Obviously case 1 does not apply because parler normally takes a direct object. But everyone seems to put "Ils se sont parlé" into case three. How is "se" not the direct object? They're talking to each other. Why is it "Ils se sont brûlés." but "Ils se sont parlé."? These two seem like they should be in the same category to me. Is it just that "se parler" is a special case, or am I completely misunderstanding?
Sorry if this was already answered somewhere but I haven't found it in my searches if so.
Thank you for your help.
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Thanks for the encouragement on the world environmental outlook as well as your encouragement of our sometimes snail like progress. I did this exercise 3 years ago and improved from 49 to 53. While I have made some meager progress, I feel the world, particularly with what just happened in the USA, is moving in the other direction. Nevertheless, I will continue the march toward toward fluency. What would help would be the ability to review your mistakes from past exercises. If there is a way to do this, I don't know how. In any case, thanks for your support and keep the challenges coming !
Hello,
I am having trouble understanding why "Ils se sont parlé hier soir au téléphone." is the correct orthography.
Bescherelle explains that there are three cases (https://www.bescherelle.com/faq/comment-accorder-le-participe-passe-dun-verbe-pronominal/):
1. Lorsque le verbe est essentiellement pronominal (c’est-à-dire qu’il se construit toujours avec un pronom réfléchi), le participe passé s’accorde avec le sujet.
2. Lorsque le verbe est occasionnellement pronominal, le participe passé s’accorde avec le COD si celui-ci est placé avant le verbe.
3. Il ne s’accorde pas s’il n’y a pas de COD ou si celui-ci est placé après le verbe.
Obviously case 1 does not apply because parler normally takes a direct object. But everyone seems to put "Ils se sont parlé" into case three. How is "se" not the direct object? They're talking to each other. Why is it "Ils se sont brûlés." but "Ils se sont parlé."? These two seem like they should be in the same category to me. Is it just that "se parler" is a special case, or am I completely misunderstanding?
Sorry if this was already answered somewhere but I haven't found it in my searches if so.
Thank you for your help.
I marked myself down for writing "je fais une soupe tiède" rather than "je fais une soupe chaude".
In English warm doesn't mean hot, and in fact I'm not sure we would say "warm soup", but "hot soup". Does "tiède" mean warm? Or do we always use "chaud" for food?
Also, the bot corrected my "une crème brûlée fait maison" to "une crème brûlée faite maison" so I also marked myself down for that and then it turned out my original version was fine after all. :)
J'aime beaucoup cette video. Merci beaucoup
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