se rappeler de vs. se rappeler

SaraB2Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

se rappeler de vs. se rappeler

In an exam, would either of those be regarded as more grammatically correct/the preferred answer?

Asked 1 year ago
CécileKwiziq team memberCorrect answer

Hi Sara,

It is correct that se rappeler doesn't need a 'de' after it, unlike se souvenir de. 

However, ( and after checking with teachers living in France) in everyday speech, you will hear this "mistake" made by French speakers all the time,  hence the reminder from 'le Figaro'.

e.g.

Je ne me rappelle  pas (de) son nom = I don't remember his name

Ils se rappelaient bien (de) ces vacances en Australie = They remembered that holiday in Australia well

I would avoid it in an exam when you can be penalised for the slightest mistake, but in my opinion, if you can attain a level where you make the mistakes French people make you are doing very well.

Some purists will not agree with me of course!

ChrisC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

They are both correct.

AlanC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Surely se rappeler de is colloquial and should be avoided in an exam?

(Except, apparently, when followed by the infinitive of a verb, when it is accepted as correct.)

http://www.lefigaro.fr/langue-francaise/dictee/2017/03/25/37005-20170325ARTFIG00004-se-rappeler-de-ne-faites-plus-la-faute.php

ChrisC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

There are instances where rappeler requires de:

Sean me rappelle de lui. -- Sean reminds me of him.

AlanC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

OK, but apart from those exceptions, se rappeler de should be avoided. They are not "both correct".

ChrisC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Well, se rappeler de isn't wrong either. It is correct, when used correctly. Like most things in life. :)

SaraB2Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Hi Chris & Alan, thank you both very much for your input! Alan: how resourceful of you to have found that link, thank you for your time. 

Seems like this is still somewhat unresolved/ambiguous - any chance of an opinion from a mod? Maybe Aurélie? 

Many thanks

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se rappeler de vs. se rappeler

In an exam, would either of those be regarded as more grammatically correct/the preferred answer?

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