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Fatiguer et se fatiguer

HeatherC1Kwiziq community member

Fatiguer et se fatiguer

In the example “il se fatigua vite mais ils ne fatiguèrent qu’à la fin de la  journée” is there a reason why the verb is reflexive in the first phrase, but not in the second?

Asked 3 years ago
CécileKwiziq team memberCorrect answer

Hi Heather, 

This is an interesting question and the difference is very subtle -

il se fatigua vite = he got tired very quickly

ils ne fatiguèrent qu'à la fin de la journée they only tired ( of something they were doing) at the end of the day

Bonne continuation!

DinaC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

The difference is so subtle that i dont get it. Would appreciate more of explanation... Thanks in advance

JamesonC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Replying to Dina:  Think of 'se fatiguer' as a compund verb(or phrasal verb) 'get tired' similar to se perdre  'to get lost' VS  fatiguer (to tire) or perdre to lose.

Then it should follow logically why one has a reflexive pronoun (se fatiguer/se perdre) as the object(receiver of the verbs action...

and the other (like perdre) has a direct object or has either no object  or an object following a preposition(like fatiguer).  

I got tired from walking==Je me suis fatigué de marcher.

i got lost while walking==je me suis perdu en marchant

The walk tired me== La marche m'a fatigué

I lost my way while walking == J'ai perdu mon chemin en marchant.

MutluA1Kwiziq community member

Replying Heather: My best guess-understanding is "he got tired" by some external factor acting upon him (maybe he took a very steep route, so heavy boots, etc.) but that external thing did not act upon the other so "they did not tire themselves", they economically used their bodily power.   

Fatiguer et se fatiguer

In the example “il se fatigua vite mais ils ne fatiguèrent qu’à la fin de la  journée” is there a reason why the verb is reflexive in the first phrase, but not in the second?

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