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When do you need to use an article with a country, for example, La Corse or Corse.

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Mary Anne

Kwiziq community member

11 September 2017

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When do you need to use an article with a country, for example, La Corse or Corse.

This relates to:
En, dans = In, to with regions, states, counties (prepositions) -

Ron

Kwiziq community member

12 September 2017

12/09/17

Bonjour Mary Anne,
This is going to sound somewhat terse, but, other than a couple of shortcuts provided in the lesson from Aurélie, i.e. Here is the rule to express in or to:
- You use en with feminine regions/states/counties (usually ending in -e)
- You use dans le with masculine regions/states/counties starting with a consonant.
- You use dans l' with masculine regions/states/counties starting with a vowel.
Note that en is also acceptable for reasons of pronunciation:
These will need to be learned or otherwise committed to memory. I have been studying French since 1999 and because I do not use countries, regions, states enough, most of the time I must look it up, like if I am writing a paper or something.
Is it worth the time to memorize such a thing, unequivocally YES.

J'espère que ma réponse vous aidera.
Bonne chance dans vos études en français.

Mary Anne

Kwiziq community member

14 September 2017

14/09/17

Thank you but my question was about the use of a definite article with a place name. Are you saying that "dans" does not use a definite article, but "en" does?

Ron

Kwiziq community member

14 September 2017

14/09/17

For purposes of clarification regarding the use of «dans le» and «en», typically dans le, dans l', follow the following rule:
- You use dans le with masculine regions/states/counties starting with a CONSONANT.
- You use dans l' with masculine regions/states/counties starting with a VOWEL
So yes, «dans» uses the definite article.
However, what the author, Aurélie, states is this:
Note that «en» is also acceptable for reasons of PRONUNCIATION (only); I added the «only» to indicate the emphasis toward spoken French. If the speaker chooses to use «en», it would be WITHOUT a definite article like in the example above in the lesson.
Now for one caveat, Aurélie may follow with a different explanation, possibly in more detail; however, based on the lesson and my studies, this is the best explanation that I can offer.
I do hope this clarifies, somewhat, my response for you.

Bonne chance et à bientôt !

Aurélie

Kwiziq language super star

13 October 2017

13/10/17

Bonjour Mary Ann !

The short answer is that you always use the definite article with countries, regions etc to simply say France, Corsica...la France, la Corse...

Have a look at our related lesson:
https://kwiziq.learnfrenchwithalexa.com/revision/grammar/using-le-la-l-les-with-continents-countries-and-regions-names


Bonne journée !

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