Subjunctive with negation of penser and conditional past

Averill G.C1Kwiziq community member

Subjunctive with negation of penser and conditional past

I came across ‘je ne pense pas qu’ils auraient reussi à s’arracher à lui s’il était revenu.’  (Harry Potter translation).  Although penser when negated takes the subjunctive is the subjunctive not used when a conditional tense is needed? I guess I’m not sure whether tenses change the use of the subjunctive. I read the future changes to the present to us the subjunctive. 

Asked 4 days ago
CélineKwiziq Native French TeacherCorrect answer

Bonjour Averill,

You're correct that Le Subjonctif introduces a doubt (although "vague" at times). Here, because the sentence includes a hypothesis (which is introduced by "si" / "s’il était revenu"), you will need to use Le Conditionnel

Je ne pense pas qu’ils auraient reussi à s’arracher à lui s’il était revenu

Je ne pense pas qu'ils aient réussi à s'arracher à lui

 

 

I hope this is helpful.

Bonne journée !

Chris W.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

The past conditional -- auraient réussi -- overrides the subjunctive. It expresses a stronger doubt than the subjunctive would.

Averill G. asked:

Subjunctive with negation of penser and conditional past

I came across ‘je ne pense pas qu’ils auraient reussi à s’arracher à lui s’il était revenu.’  (Harry Potter translation).  Although penser when negated takes the subjunctive is the subjunctive not used when a conditional tense is needed? I guess I’m not sure whether tenses change the use of the subjunctive. I read the future changes to the present to us the subjunctive. 

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