Plus Jamais et Jamais Plus

S. B.C1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Plus Jamais et Jamais Plus

I thought "plus jamais" et "jamais plus" were both acceptable. 

Asked 4 years ago
CécileNative French expert teacher in KwiziqCorrect answer

That's an interesting question, Sean,

In fact, where the 'seul' is placed can change the meaning of the sentence.

If you say -

'et c'est ainsi que notre bûcheron ne se sentit jamais plus seul', meaning he never felt more lonely 

et c'est ainsi que notre bûcheron ne se sentit plus jamais seul = and that's how our lumberjack never felt lonely ever again

and using 'plus jamais' avoids the confusion, so I agree with Aurélie here!

 

 

Chris W.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

I've only heard plus jamais for "never again".

Alan G.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

You can say either "plus jamais" or "jamais plus". But plus and jamais always come before rien or personne.

Combining two or more negations (French Negations)

S. B.C1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

As Alain points out, the grammar lesson says either is acceptable, but "jamais plus" was marked as wrong when I wrote it.  Putting jamais before plus rien or personne is an easier rule to remember. 

S. B. asked:

Plus Jamais et Jamais Plus

I thought "plus jamais" et "jamais plus" were both acceptable. 

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