Pendant v pour

Jules P.A2Kwiziq community member

Pendant v pour

Hi, my kwiz question was “Jeanne is going to France for three days”. The answer was “pendant trois jours” but the lesson suggests that it should be “pour trois jours”. Can anyone explain? 

Asked 11 months ago
Chris W.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor Correct answer

Using pour emphasizes that the duration of her stay in France will be 3 days. With pendant you are speaking about the duration of the entire trip, not just her stay in France.

Maarten K.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Jules, 

I suspect the reason ‘pendant’ was used is probably because this was translated as present tense. However, in English ‘is going…’ is ambiguous without context, as ‘ am going to go’ is often abbreviated. In everyday speech it could mean she is on her way right now, going soon or sometime further in the future. 

Regardless the ‘three days’ are definitely in the future as the English sentence unambiguously means she is not there yet, and the duration expressed is in the future, and “intended”. 

(I still have no idea what the somewhat cryptic comment in the lesson - ‘the suggestion of intent’ - means in practice, as anything planned to extend into the future is ‘intended’ and can change, at least theoretically). 

You most certainly can use ‘pour trois jours’ here - my wife is a qualified French English translator and would have done so. However, pendant is also correct here.

The distinction suggested in the response of a different meaning between ‘pour’ and ‘pendant’ does not hold up well here - indeed if ‘pour’ applies to the time in France more specifically, that favours its use in the answer, as that reflects the English sentence exactly. 

Bottom line, don’t sweat it too much, but remember that ‘pour (duration)’ is for ‘future’ durations, so excludes ‘events’ that have happened or are currently in progress, while ‘pendant’ can be used for either past completed or future ‘intended’ events.

Chuck T.C1Kwiziq community member

I still don’t understand why “pour” is incorrect. 

Chuck T.C1Kwiziq community member

I still don’t understand why “pour” is incorrect. 

Maarten K.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Chuck, 

 and neither should you ! 

To summarise my previous response considerably :

 “    As a stand alone sentence, there is insufficient information in the English sentence to choose between ‘ pendant ‘ or ‘ pour ‘ for the French translation.  “

Do you have a link to the question directly, or can you include it in full, with any French translation given? 

The explanation should be in the 2 combined.

I don’t agree with the explanation in the answer marked ‘correct’.

Theresa-Marie E.C1Kwiziq community member

My best guess is that French, like Spanish, isn't as precise as English.  Therefore, a simply stated sentence to us English (American) speakers using "is going to" -- or "fixin' to," in Alabama -- embodies the clear future intent of an action, but apparently not in French.  Personally, I think Kwiziq developers should change the sentence in English to "Jeanne goes to France for three days," which, of course, makes no sense in English because it's neither past or future, leaving the listener with questions regarding Jeanne's three-day excursion to France.

Theresa-Marie E.C1Kwiziq community member

My best guess is that French, like Spanish, isn't as precise as English.  Therefore, a simply stated sentence to us English (American) speakers using "is going to" -- or "fixin' to," in Alabama -- embodies the clear future intent of an action, but apparently not in French.  Personally, I think Kwiziq developers should change the sentence in English to "Jeanne goes to France for three days," which, of course, makes no sense in English because it's neither past or future, leaving the listener with questions regarding Jeanne's three-day excursion to France.

Jules P. asked:

Pendant v pour

Hi, my kwiz question was “Jeanne is going to France for three days”. The answer was “pendant trois jours” but the lesson suggests that it should be “pour trois jours”. Can anyone explain? 

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