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26 March 2018
This question relates to:French lesson "Using stress pronouns in compound subjects and objects (unlike English)"
27 March 2018
Indeed, "John and me" is incorrect English, even though frequently heard in colloquial English. However, there does exist in English a kind of parallel to the French stress pronouns. Here is what I mean:
"Hey, you!" - "Who, me?" -- In this case "who, I" would be unnatural. In this case "I" is replaced by "me" which functions as a kind of stress pronoun for "I". This works for other persons as well:
I -- meyou -- youhe/she/it -- him/her/itwe -- usyou -- youthey -- them
It's curious, but in English the use of the stress pronouns also seems to depend on the position within the sentence:
"My brother and I are going out." -- correct."My brother and me are going out." -- incorrect."Me and my brother are going out." -- correct."I and my brother are going out." -- incorrect (or at least awkward).
So your question has more to do with English than with French.
-- Chris (not a native speaker).
21 August 2018
Chris, you would NEVER say "Me and my brother are going out". That is incorrect. The only way to say this is "My brother and I are going out". "I and my brother are going out" IS awkward but it's not incorrect.
23 August 2018
He's American. Any English linguists in that host?
My brother and I are subject pronoun(s), so when they are the subject, use I. My brother and me are object promoun(s). Use when they are the object.
"My brother and I walked down the street." Or "My brother and me walked down the street." ? Knockout "my brother" and see how it sounds. "I walked down the street." Or "Me walked down the street."
28 April 2019
This is true in American English, as well. "Me" is an object pronoun, not a subject pronoun. "My brother and me" used as a subject is always incorrect, even if people commonly say it either by choice or by ignorance of the rule.
Thank you Melisa. I sometimes hear "me and him went to the movie..." Again, object pronouns, not subject!
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