In the phrase "J'en viens ..." what is the en referring to? It seems superfluous.

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Graham

Kwiziq community member

3 April 2019

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In the phrase "J'en viens ..." what is the en referring to? It seems superfluous.

This question relates to:
French dictation exercise "Mes bêtes noires au cinéma (B1)"

Todd

Kwiziq community member

3 April 2019

3/04/19

I can't see the lesson, as I haven't upgraded my account. But generally, j'en viens means I come from there, where en replaces de and refers to a place already mentioned.

e.g.:

Je viens de France. = I'm from France.

J'en viens. = I'm from there.

En is known as an adverbial pronoun here, and can be used to replace de in many circumstances, but will always come before the verb (except for in the imperative tense). 

Cécile

Kwiziq language super star

3 April 2019

3/04/19

Well spotted, Graham!

Here, the 'en' is idiomatic . The actual sentence is -

'....j'en viens à ne plus vouloir y aller '  ( y = au cinéma)

The expression is 'en venir à' which is 'to come to' 

e.g.

Les deux parties politiques en sont  finalement venus  à un accord = The two political parties finally came to a agreement

En venir aux mains = to come to blows

Hope this helps!

Todd

Kwiziq community member

3 April 2019

3/04/19

Disregard my response, as I didn't know the context, and now I see it's irrelevant! Sorry!

Graham

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4 April 2019

4/04/19

Thank you Cecile

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