Aren't there some past participles that don't ever agree? In 501 verbs, some are listed with their pp showing possible agreement and some not.

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Ann

Kwiziq community member

7 May 2018

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Aren't there some past participles that don't ever agree? In 501 verbs, some are listed with their pp showing possible agreement and some not.

Eg réveillé(e)(s) but réussi

This question relates to:
French lesson "Special cases when the past participle agrees (in number & gender) when used with 'avoir' in Le Passé Composé"

Chris

Kwiziq community member

8 May 2018

8/05/18

Hi Ann,

no, in fact, all past participles follow the rules explained in the lesson. I am not aware of some verbs which wouldn't follow it.

-- Chris (not a native speaker).

Cécile

Kwiziq language super star

9 May 2018

9/05/18

Hi Ann,

In the case of true 'intransitive'  verbs which by definition don't have an object , the past participle will not agree .

I am not sure that a list would help with this.

(N.B. some verbs can be both intransitive and transitive like servir, commencer ...)

Impersonal verbs as in expressions like 'il faut' or 'il y a' will always be become 'il a fallu' and  'il y a eu'.

There is a group of verbs however which is interesting like coûter, valoir, peser, mesuser, courir...which express measure, quantity and duration  will be 'invariable' with 'avoir' even if the object precedes the verbs because the object is a quantity and answers to the question 'combien' and not 'quoi'.

e.g. 

Les millions d'euros que cette réparation nous a coûté...

Les kilos que ce paquet a pesé... 

Les heures que j'ai couru...

Hope this helps!

 

Ann

Kwiziq community member

9 May 2018

9/05/18

Yes, thanks!

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