This was a sentence in the lesson: Ce soir-là, quelque chose d'extraordinaire se produisit.
Why is it not "quelque chose extraordinaire"? Why is it "d'extraordinaire?"
Thanks for the explanation!
Using the demonstrative adjectives ce/cet/cette/ces (see Ce/cet/cette and ces = this/that and these/those (demonstrative adjectives)) on their own is good enough in most cases to express this/that, but sometimes, especially with durations, you need to emphasise how far in the past something happened (that day), or how close to now things are happening (these days).
Look at such cases in French:
Note that in this expression you use année and NOT an
Ce soir-là, quelque chose d'extraordinaire se produisit.That night, something extraordinary happened.
To say that + duration, use the agreed demonstrative adjective ce, cet, cette or ces + duration(s) + -là
To say this + duration, use the agreed demonstrative adjective ce, cet, cette or ces + duration(s) + -ci
Note that ce ...-là (that/those ...) forms are much more commonly used than their counterparts ce...-ci (this/these ...).
ATTENTION:
To express in those days in French, you won't colloquially use "ces jours-là", but rather à cette époque-là or en ce temps-là.
However, ces jours-ci is perfectly correct to say these days:
À cette époque-là, les femmes n'avaient pas le droit de vote.In those days, women didn't have the right to vote.
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Hi Carole,
It is a particularity of some expressions -
Quelque chose, rien, quelqu'un, have to have a 'de' before the adjectives that follow them.
e.g
Il n'y a rien de bon à manger ici = There's nothing good to eat here
C'est quelqu'un de très motivé = He is a very motivated person
Take a look at the following Kwiziq lesson -
Hope this helps!
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extraordinaire as an adjective
This was a sentence in the lesson: Ce soir-là, quelque chose d'extraordinaire se produisit.
Why is it not "quelque chose extraordinaire"? Why is it "d'extraordinaire?"
Thanks for the explanation!
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SeanKwiziq community member
Last Week vs. That Week
Why is this sentence "Tu m'as bien aidé cette semaine-là." translated as last week and not that week? Merci!
Asked 7 months ago
CécileKwiziq team member
Hi Sean,
Can’t find that particular example in the lesson, was it in a quiz ?
Sean asked:View original
Last Week vs. That Week
Why is this sentence "Tu m'as bien aidé cette semaine-là." translated as last week and not that week? Merci!
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FahadKwiziq community member
When should we use ‘dans’, ‘à’, or ‘en’ with this?
Are ‘à’ and ‘en’ only used with
à cette époque-là
and
en ce temps-là
?
Asked 10 months ago
Fahad asked:View original
When should we use ‘dans’, ‘à’, or ‘en’ with this?
Are ‘à’ and ‘en’ only used with
à cette époque-là
and
en ce temps-là
?
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MaryaKwiziq community member
I don’t get the first sentence. Isn’t it elle s’est mariée cette année-là
Asked 11 months ago
Hi Marya,
It is indeed the passé simple which is a narrative tense equivalent to the passé composé . If you want to know more about it , take a look at the following Kwiziq lesson -
Hope this helps!
YokoKwiziq community member
I had the same question. Although now I understand after reading Cécile's comment, it is not kind to use a tense which most of the users have not learned yet :S
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BillKwiziq Q&A regular contributor
Bonsoir
For the quiz question "Life was harder in those days" I was marked incorrect for saying:
La vie était plus dure ces jours-làthe answer was:
La vie était plus dure à cette époque-là
Why was my answer marked incorrect?
Merci
Asked 1 year ago
Bill asked:View original
Bonsoir
For the quiz question "Life was harder in those days" I was marked incorrect for saying:
La vie était plus dure ces jours-làthe answer was:
La vie était plus dure à cette époque-là
Why was my answer marked incorrect?
Merci
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PaulKwiziq Q&A regular contributor
Nuit et soir
Hi, The quiz answer to It was that night that my insomnia started is cette nuit-là, but the example "That night, something extraordinary happened" is translated as ce soir-là. Is there a lesson on when to use nuit and when soir?
Asked 1 year ago
Hi Paul,
Aurélie tells me there is no specific lesson on when to use nuit and soir.
Normally 'nuit' is night and 'soir' is evening.
'Nuit' is associated with dark and sleeping so you will say, Bonne Nuit! to someone only before you go to bed wishing them to have a good night sleep.
You will say 'bonsoir!' to someone you greet in the evening.
In the examples you mention, the first one is definitely 'nuit' as it involves sleeping or lack of. I guess the second one is more vague so it could be either depending on the context.
Hope this helps!
Paul asked:View original
Nuit et soir
Hi, The quiz answer to It was that night that my insomnia started is cette nuit-là, but the example "That night, something extraordinary happened" is translated as ce soir-là. Is there a lesson on when to use nuit and when soir?
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Mary AnneKwiziq Q&A regular contributor
Cet with année
Usually "cet" goes before a noun that begins with a vowel.
But in this lesson we have "cette année" and "cette epoque."
Evidently, these are exceptions. Is there an explanation for this? Are there other exceptions?
Thank you for your help.
Asked 1 year ago
Bonjour Mary Ann !
The answer is that cet comes before masculine nouns that begin with a vowel or mute h.
For feminine nouns such as année or époque, you use cette.
See our related lesson:
https://kwiziq.learnfrenchwithalexa.com/revision/grammar/demonstrative-adjectives-ce-cet-cette-and-ces-mean-this-that-and-these-those
Bonne journée !
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Cet with année
Usually "cet" goes before a noun that begins with a vowel.
But in this lesson we have "cette année" and "cette epoque."
Evidently, these are exceptions. Is there an explanation for this? Are there other exceptions?
Thank you for your help.
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StevenKwiziq community member
se marier - simple past or passé composé?
In the examples we have "Elle se maria cette année-là." and in the quiz "Je me suis marié ce jour-là". I think the first is the simple past, the second passé composé - but why choose one over the other? Or are they equivalent?
Asked 1 year ago
Hi Steven,
'Elle se maria' is in the passé simple ( past historic).
'Je me suis marié' is in the passé composé .
They have the same value, but the passé simple is essentially a written tense used for narrating actions in the past (mainly found in literature) and the passé composé is its spoken equivalent.
You will not hear the passé simple spoken in every day speech.
Hope this helps!
Steven asked:View original
se marier - simple past or passé composé?
In the examples we have "Elle se maria cette année-là." and in the quiz "Je me suis marié ce jour-là". I think the first is the simple past, the second passé composé - but why choose one over the other? Or are they equivalent?
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JoakimKwiziq Q&A regular contributor
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Why is it that "cette époque-là" needs to be prefixed with "à" while "cette semaine-là" can do without ?
Asked 3 years ago
AurélieKwiziq team member
Bonjour Joakim !
I guess it's similar to the difference between saying "that week..." and "AT that time...".
It's just something to remember, you cannot say "cette époque-là" or "à cette semaine-là" in French :)
À bientôt !
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Why is it that "cette époque-là" needs to be prefixed with "à" while "cette semaine-là" can do without ?
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