Conjugate venir, tenir and derivatives in Le Subjonctif Présent (subjunctive mood)

The verbs VENIR and TENIR are irregular in the Subjonctif Présent:

 
que je vienne  /  tienne that I come  /  hold
que tu viennes  /  tiennes that you come  /  hold
qu'il/elle/on vienne  /  tienne that he/she/we comes  /  holds
que nous venions  /  tenions that we come  /  hold
que vous veniez  /  teniez that you come  /  hold
qu'ils/elles viennent  /  tiennent that they come  /  hold
 

Note that the nous and vous forms are the same as in L'Imparfait. (See Conjugate regular verbs in L'Imparfait (imperfect tense))

As for the other forms, the irregular roots vienn- for VENIRtienn- for TENIR are followed by the regular endings of Le Subjonctif Présent: 

-e, -es, -e, [-], [-], -ent

 
 
Have a look at these examples with venir and tenir derivatives:

Il faut que je retienne ma respiration sous l'eau.
I have to hold my breath under water.

Elle ne s'attendait pas à ce que tu reviennes.
She didn't expect you to come back.

Tu n'es pas sûre qu'il se souvienne de toi.
You're not sure he remembers you.

Nos parents voulaient que nous devenions avocats.
Our parents wanted us to become lawyers.

Il est important que vous les préveniez immédiatement !
It is important that you warn them immediately!

J'ai peur qu'ils ne retiennent jamais la leçon.
I'm afraid they'll never learn their lesson.

 

Venir and Tenir derivatives include:

devenir - to become
revenir - to come back
intervenir - to intervene
prévenir - to warn
se souvenir - to remember

retenir - to retain, to hold back
détenir - to detain
obtenir - to get, to obtain
appartenir - to belong
contenir - to contain

 

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Il faut que je retienne ma respiration sous l'eau.
I have to hold my breath under water.


Il est important que vous les préveniez immédiatement !
It is important that you warn them immediately!


Nos parents voulaient que nous devenions avocats.
Our parents wanted us to become lawyers.


Elle ne s'attendait pas à ce que tu reviennes.
She didn't expect you to come back.


Tu n'es pas sûre qu'il se souvienne de toi.
You're not sure he remembers you.


J'ai peur qu'ils ne retiennent jamais la leçon.
I'm afraid they'll never learn their lesson.


Q&A Forum 4 questions, 4 answers

DiegoC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Rule to form Le Subjonctif Présent

If you say the stem has to be the stem of the infinitive, then yes, you'll find lots of irregular verbs. But there's a much better rule, and I'd say the few verbs that don't follow it could be called irregular in the Subjonctif Présent.

- je/tu/il/elle/on/ils/elles: the stem is the Indicatif Présent third person plural, minus -ent

- nous/vous: the stem is the Indicatif Présent second/third first plural, minus -ons 


Examples:

aimer -> ils aiment -> aim-

venir -> ils viennent -> vienn-

tenir -> ils tiennent -> tienn-

prendre -> ils prennent -> prenn-

...


There are not that many exceptions to this rule. Some important ones:

    - avoir       -> aie/aies/ait/ayons/ayez/aient
    - être        -> soi-  (turns into soyons/soyez making ii into y)
    - faire       -> fass-
    - pouvoir     -> puiss-
    - savoir      -> sach-
    - aller       -> aill- / all-
    - valoir      -> vaill- / val-
    - vouloir     -> veuill- / voul-


NOTE: where there are two stems, the second one is for nous/vous, the first one is for all others.

Asked 1 week ago
ChrisC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

The rule for forming the subjunctive present is just that: take the stem of the third person plural in present tense and add the corresponding subjunctive suffixes.

I agree with you, that they are not really irregular in the way they form the subjunctive. They only are irregular in forming the 3rd person plural, but that's a different matter.

Rule to form Le Subjonctif Présent

If you say the stem has to be the stem of the infinitive, then yes, you'll find lots of irregular verbs. But there's a much better rule, and I'd say the few verbs that don't follow it could be called irregular in the Subjonctif Présent.

- je/tu/il/elle/on/ils/elles: the stem is the Indicatif Présent third person plural, minus -ent

- nous/vous: the stem is the Indicatif Présent second/third first plural, minus -ons 


Examples:

aimer -> ils aiment -> aim-

venir -> ils viennent -> vienn-

tenir -> ils tiennent -> tienn-

prendre -> ils prennent -> prenn-

...


There are not that many exceptions to this rule. Some important ones:

    - avoir       -> aie/aies/ait/ayons/ayez/aient
    - être        -> soi-  (turns into soyons/soyez making ii into y)
    - faire       -> fass-
    - pouvoir     -> puiss-
    - savoir      -> sach-
    - aller       -> aill- / all-
    - valoir      -> vaill- / val-
    - vouloir     -> veuill- / voul-


NOTE: where there are two stems, the second one is for nous/vous, the first one is for all others.

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ScottC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

valoir & falloir irregular in the subjonctif?

Hi, I don't believe you have conjugation lessons for the verbs valoir and falloir, which are irregular in the subjonctif. Have I missed them, or would it be possible for you to add them? How many other verbs are irregular in the subjonctif?

thanks, Scott

Asked 1 year ago

valoir & falloir irregular in the subjonctif?

Hi, I don't believe you have conjugation lessons for the verbs valoir and falloir, which are irregular in the subjonctif. Have I missed them, or would it be possible for you to add them? How many other verbs are irregular in the subjonctif?

thanks, Scott

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DanielC1Kwiziq community member

I'll probably (or at least hopefully) discover the answer to this 10 minutes from now, but in the meantime, why isn't the "ne explicative" used here?

Asked 1 year ago
DanielC1Kwiziq community member
To clarify, I'm referring to the question, "Je ne suis pas sûr qu'il ________."I'm not sure he's coming.

I'll probably (or at least hopefully) discover the answer to this 10 minutes from now, but in the meantime, why isn't the "ne explicative" used here?

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ErinA1Kwiziq community member

the person who reads this script cannot be understood!

most readers in the recorded segments are good, clear and articulate. Not this woman. Why?
Asked 3 years ago
AurélieKwiziq team member
Bonjour Erin ! We've been using different voice softwares, with various results as you can hear :) Thanks to you, these audio files have now been updated and are much clearer ! Merci et à bientôt !
ErinA1Kwiziq community member
Merci, Auélie, ça c'est fantastique !

the person who reads this script cannot be understood!

most readers in the recorded segments are good, clear and articulate. Not this woman. Why?

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