Stuart asked: "Could we not also say "une valeur sûre" as well as "une valeur certaine"? "

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Aurélie

Kwiziq language super star

11 November 2016

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Stuart asked: "Could we not also say "une valeur sûre" as well as "une valeur certaine"? "

Sa collection de tableaux a une ___ . (His painting collection has sure value.)

This relates to:
Certain = specific / sure (adjectives that change meaning according to position) -

Aurélie

Kwiziq language super star

11 November 2016

11/11/16

Bonjour Stuart !

That's an interesting case!
Indeed, "une valeur sûre" could seem to be a possible synonym here for "une valeur certaine", however they don't actually mean the same thing in French.

​Look at this sentence:
"Fais-moi confiance, c'est une valeur sûre !" (Trust me, it's a safe bet / a sure thing / a valued asset!)
​Note that you use it with "être", and would never say "avoir une valeur sûre".

I hope that's helpful!
À bientôt !

Phillip

Kwiziq community member

31 December 2017

31/12/17

Hi Aurélie,
That's a tricky point; I think most anglophones would use the two (certain , sure) interchangeably. You might consider integrating it in a quiz or placing a note in one of the lessons.
Keep up the good work !

David

Kwiziq community member

22 July 2018

22/07/18

Here are examples of French speakers using "une valeur sûre" with avoir:


https://www.public.fr/Public-TV/Scoop-Public-TV/Exclu-Video-Stephane-Bern-Eurovision-2015-On-a-une-valeur-sure-avec-Lisa-Angell-730072



http://www.alterinfo.net/L-arnaque-de-la-recuperation-des-bijoux-en-or-par-des-operateurs-financiers-prives_a55634.html


(Comment #29)



https://vancouver.consulfrance.org/Notariat-et-legalisations-de-signature-Procedure



Aurélie

Kwiziq language super star

10 August 2018

10/08/18

Bonjour David !


I looked at the examples you provided and:


On a une valeur sûre avec Lisa Angeli.  
-> Here it's the same case I mentioned, where it means she is a reliable talent for these people. This sentence means that "they have a reliable winner in her."


As for the other examples, I must admit that they seem valid, though I've never used this expression like this myself.


I will therefore amend the question to accept both answers :)


Merci et bonne journée !


 

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