Seem specific to me?

Katy

Kwiziq community member

25 August 2017

4 replies

Seem specific to me?

I'm still having trouble with these two examples: C'est vraiment magnifique ici! It's really beautiful here! - ici seems to make it specific, is it not? Miam, c'est délicieux! Yummy, it's delicious! -this seems to fit the ambiguous cases example of the soup. We don't know if the speaker is talking about a certain food in general or something in front of them. That would make a difference, wouldn't it?

This relates to:
C'est vs il/elle est: Saying it is -

Ron

Kwiziq community member

26 August 2017

26/08/17

Bonjour Katy,
Here is the explanation in the lesson:
Cases expressing opinions or simple statements (adjectives) about pre-mentioned things, look at these rules:
a - c'est for general, unspecific statements and opinions
Tu étudies la science ? - Oui, c'est passionnant !
Do you study science? - Yes, it's thrilling!
C'est vraiment magnifique ici!
It's really beautiful here!
Miam, c'est délicieux!
Yummy, it's delicious!
In those cases, we're expressing opinions or statements that refer to the thing generally: we're saying science in general is thrilling, or that something unspecified is great or delicious.
Therefore, here we use c'est to say it is.

I tend to be in agreement with you; however, I think that there is nothing mentioned in advance of the two phrases, i.e. le paysage or la soupe makes it more general in the terms of the lesson.
Bonne chance,

Katy

Kwiziq community member

31 August 2017

31/08/17

Thanks for your response. It is not very helpful though as you just copied the text from the lesson which I had already read several times. And then you said you that you seem to agree with my question. Hopefully someone else will come along and give a real answer.

Ron

Kwiziq community member

1 September 2017

1/09/17

Bonjour Katy,
My apologies that you did not find my answer helpful. So, here are some other links that you might possibly find more helpful. The first two are by Laura, another of the Progress with Lawless French and Kwiziq team.
https://www.lawlessfrench.com/grammar/cest-vs-il-est/
https://www.thoughtco.com/french-expressions-cest-vs-il-est-4083779
http://laits.utexas.edu/tex/gr/pro3.html
https://www.frenchtoday.com/blog/french-grammar/cest-versus-il-elle-est
I find at times, when I do not fully understand the lesson on one site, if I look at a similar lesson from another author, that can give me a different perspective and better understanding.
J'espère que cela vous aiderait.
Bonne chance.

Chris

Kwiziq community member

6 November 2017

6/11/17

Hi Katy, you use "il/elle est...." if there is something specific it could refer to. In the sentence "It is beautiful here" the "it" doesn't refer to anything specific (grammatically speaking, not geographically). To make it specific, you'd need some contect such as: "Tu vois cette maison? Elle est magnifique!" Here you use elle because it refers to a specific object (the house) which is mentioned before.

-- Chris (not a native speaker).

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